Can i ask what's the controversey with Peter Saville? I don't know anything about him and i was reading your Paula Scher post where i saw a few of your thoughts on the guy.
I don't understand.
Also, i'm fascinated with Scher's work but i know a lot of people have given her flak because she learned by robbing from past styles in order to learn typography and the mechanics of layout design.
I'd duck out of that one if I were you Richard. But you could always ask Ben (http://noisydecentgraphics.typepad.com/ ) to answer the 'Peter Saville' question.
Hi Andrew, thanks for asking, I'll do my best to answer.
I can't comment on Saville's character from experience as I've neither met him or heard him speak but I've heard he can be a bit of a tosser. Also, fair enough, he's produced some iconic work but, like the work of Brody and Carson, that kind of style-lead design rarely pushes my buttons. I'm an ideas man.
Regarding Scher, I thought I was quite positive about her in the end. What I found when I read her book was that a) I actually liked more of her work than I thought (although not all of it) and, b) I actually liked her much more than I thought I would.
Perhaps if I read a bit more about Saville I'd find the same with him, which is the point I was at least trying to make.
David's right though, Ben might give a better answer.
So I was looking through my Eye Magazine back issues for something and I stumble across a copy that includes a Rick Poyner interview with Saville. I read it with an open mind. It didn't help much.
The impression I got was of a pompous man who's fame is disproportionate with his body of work. I found his work trivial and shallow.
Interestingly though, there are distinct parallels with Scher's work, specifically: lots of work for the music industry and frequent appropriation. And yet Scher's work seems so much more interesting.
Can i ask what's the controversey with Peter Saville? I don't know anything about him and i was reading your Paula Scher post where i saw a few of your thoughts on the guy.
I don't understand.
Also, i'm fascinated with Scher's work but i know a lot of people have given her flak because she learned by robbing from past styles in order to learn typography and the mechanics of layout design.
Why doesn't her work interest you much?
Posted by: Andrew | 23 February 2007 at 03:46 PM
I'd duck out of that one if I were you Richard. But you could always ask Ben (http://noisydecentgraphics.typepad.com/ ) to answer the 'Peter Saville' question.
Posted by: davidthedesigner | 23 February 2007 at 05:19 PM
Hi Andrew, thanks for asking, I'll do my best to answer.
I can't comment on Saville's character from experience as I've neither met him or heard him speak but I've heard he can be a bit of a tosser. Also, fair enough, he's produced some iconic work but, like the work of Brody and Carson, that kind of style-lead design rarely pushes my buttons. I'm an ideas man.
Regarding Scher, I thought I was quite positive about her in the end. What I found when I read her book was that a) I actually liked more of her work than I thought (although not all of it) and, b) I actually liked her much more than I thought I would.
Perhaps if I read a bit more about Saville I'd find the same with him, which is the point I was at least trying to make.
David's right though, Ben might give a better answer.
Posted by: Richard | 23 February 2007 at 11:14 PM
So I was looking through my Eye Magazine back issues for something and I stumble across a copy that includes a Rick Poyner interview with Saville. I read it with an open mind. It didn't help much.
The impression I got was of a pompous man who's fame is disproportionate with his body of work. I found his work trivial and shallow.
Interestingly though, there are distinct parallels with Scher's work, specifically: lots of work for the music industry and frequent appropriation. And yet Scher's work seems so much more interesting.
Posted by: Richard | 27 February 2007 at 10:03 AM