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Rob Sawkins

I'm so glad to see Judith Butcher's Copy-Editing on your list (3rd edition). It's a prime example of clear thinking in both it's content and presentation. I see you've taken off the jacket to reveal the lovely blocking design. That and the fantastic text design are both by typo guru/book design genius Dale Tomlinson. Aside: the jacket would have been a 'MetaDesign masterpiece' but the then director of Communications at CUP, watered down the design, so it's now rather average. Shame.

May I be so bold – see what I did there – as to add Rhyme & Reason: a typographic novel (translated by Erik Spiekermann and edited by my old tutor at Reading Paul Stiff) and also Modern typography by Robin Kinross to your list? A fellow student accused the first of being condescending, but I think she rather missed the point. And Modern typography? Well, I'm backing you up on your last choice. If you don't know where you've come from, how can you know where you're going?

Richard

Hi Rob,

I took that jacket off ages ago for exactly the reason you describe. The book is indispensable. Thanks for the background info.

Rhyme & Reason is great. Posted on that a while back:
http://acejet170.typepad.com/foundthings/2006/10/ryme_reason_a_t.html
I just didn't want to suggest anything that would be tricky to get hold of. It's not in print is it?

Rob Sawkins

Ah yes I should have dug deeper ref: R&R. One day perhaps someone might take a few more shots and whack them up on Flickr...seems a good excuse to get a new Nikon D3 (if you have a spare £3K+ lying around that is ;-)

And I take your point about still being in print. I've got a couple of extra copies of the above, but am loathed to part with them. But books in print as a replacement, let's see...how about some/one of these (I hope I've stayed away from the usual suspects):

The reflective practitioner: how professionals think in action by Donald A. Schon (hard work in most places but worth a look if you've the time); Dark angels by John Simmons (he writes nicely for a simple guy like me); The best software writing I selected by Joel Spolsky (for the geekier part of the designer psyche); and last but not least, The Gutenberg elegies by Sven Birkerts (love that wordsmithery). I could go on, but I'm boring myself. I'm interested in what the fellow AJ170 readers add...

ManxStef

Hart's Rules has since been absorbed under the Oxford banner and is now known as the Oxford Style Manual :-
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxford-Style-Manual-Robert-Ritter/dp/0198605641/

It's on my list of future purchases, though'll have to wait for a while as I just spent my book budget on Josef Müller-Brockmann's "Grid Systems" and it'll take some time to fully absorb that one - it looks fascinating, but heavy going!

Ricky Irvine

(I'm new here. Fantastic site!)

ManxStef, I found The New Hart's Rules: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0198610416/ a newer publication than the Oxford Style Manual, but authored the same by Robert Ritter.

It's a shame some of these titles are not in print.

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